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Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
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Posted - 2013.07.09 05:35:00 -
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loyalanon wrote:i just lol at new order.
they are full of rookies, terrible gankers Their killboard says otherwise, so does the amount of hate mail they receive.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
9951
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Posted - 2013.07.09 23:14:00 -
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Sasha Rama wrote: No, they don't. They kill nothing but untanked inexperienced miners. Their kill board is packed full of the worst fits they could find and then talked up to be a great accomplishment.
Look again, a sizeable proportion of those inexperienced miners have been playing for 2 years or more, and they still can't fit a ship for toffee. It's not like CCP didn't recently give mining vessels a substantial boost in both EHP and cargo, and still they cry for more.
Quote:James and his loving children Kill, extort, and threaten miners....Then Call, as if to make fun of the fact, himself the savior of highsec, returning dignity to miners, and directing them towards truely honorable mining. Killing, extortion and threats are valid strategies in a world where the strong prosper and the weak get trodden on, the only difference between many modern day corporations and Eve corporations is the killing, and depending on how well connected your business is you can get away with that as well.
Quote:Trolls aren't welcome anywhere. You'd best leave then
I'll be honest here, I have a highsec miner alt myself, unlike the NOs victims I don't fly shitfit mining vessels, I don't tab out and watch youtube, faptube or movies while I mine. I accept and understand that somebody else can and will ruin my day if they want to, I try and make it as difficult for them as possible to do so by fitting for tank over yield, inefficient yes, cheaper in the long run definitely, as I've never had to replace a mining vessel. What I don't do is cry on the forums and sperg in local about how unfair it is that this can happen.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:00:00 -
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loyalanon wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:loyalanon wrote:i just lol at new order.
they are full of rookies, terrible gankers Their killboard says otherwise, so does the amount of hate mail they receive. On a player to player killboard comparison, i would be better solo then there top 5 put together. That'll be because 90% of your kills are in lowsec, where you don't have to avoid Concord, the Faction Navy or wait out GCCs in station. Highsec is a different kettle of fish, go and try it.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
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Posted - 2013.07.15 07:07:00 -
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loyalanon wrote: Actually 90% of my kills are in high sec.
I stand corrected, however over 50% of your 138 kills in July have not been in highsec, just saying.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:36:00 -
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None of that is lies, the kill and isk figures were pulled from evekill for both yourself and the NO top 5 killers, the hulkageddon league positions were pulled from the league tables, do your own research, put your ego away and try again, and I ain't your brah, bro, homie, pal or buddy.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10937
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:53:00 -
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Good god are you really that so far up your own arse?
Points in order I'm not mad, and I most definitely am not your brah (whatever that is I don't do american teen slang which is what I presume that is) I'm not lying, the figures and facts are publicly available on both the hulkageddon league table and on evekill, go check them for yourself before calling me a liar, you're just making yourself look like an egotistical fool. I'm considerably older than 13, by 3 decades.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10940
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:12:00 -
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loyalanon wrote:you still havent provided proof that the guys are in new order. soo.... technically... get around me brah
Hulkageddon league tables http://evewho.com/pilot/Runeme+Shilter #1 in the junior league, #3 in the solo killer league, #4 in the Gallente highsec league, #in the Caldari highsec league, current member of New Order Logistics http://evewho.com/pilot/Botslayer+Goblin #2 in the junior league, #2 in the solo killer league, #2 in the Gallente highsec league, former member of New Order Logistics http://evewho.com/pilot/PinkOboe #7 in the solo killer league, #8 in the Amarr highsec league, former member of New Order Logistics http://evewho.com/pilot/Capt+Starfox #4 in the champions league, #5 in the solo killers league, #10 in the Amarr highsec league, #6 in the Caldari highsec league, former member of New Order Logistics
Need I go on brah?
As for paying 10 million? I have no need to, I don't mine on this character or in highsec, the ores are much better elsewhere.
Your killboard is pretty admirable, but you should really do some checking before boasting that you're better than the top 5 NO killers next time, and check your ego at the door.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10940
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:16:00 -
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loyalanon wrote:
Why do you use photoshop to tell your lies old man?
Hey bro I should ask james315 to bend over so you can lick his arse abit harder. hahahahaha.
let me know when any of those nubs you posted feel like moving to the big time brah, but still please provide proof.
Photoshop? what are you smoking and can I have some? You are a troll, that much is obvious, kindly bugger off.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10940
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:28:00 -
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412nv Yaken wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:loyalanon wrote:you still havent provided proof that the guys are in new order. soo.... technically... get around me brah Hulkageddon league tables http://evewho.com/pilot/Runeme+Shilter #1 in the junior league, #3 in the solo killer league, #4 in the Gallente highsec league, #in the Caldari highsec league, current member of New Order Logistics http://evewho.com/pilot/Botslayer+Goblin #2 in the junior league, #2 in the solo killer league, #2 in the Gallente highsec league, former member of New Order Logistics http://evewho.com/pilot/PinkOboe #7 in the solo killer league, #8 in the Amarr highsec league, former member of New Order Logistics http://evewho.com/pilot/Capt+Starfox #4 in the champions league, #5 in the solo killers league, #10 in the Amarr highsec league, #6 in the Caldari highsec league, former member of New Order Logistics Need I go on brah? As for paying 10 million? I have no need to, I don't mine on this character or in highsec, the ores are much better elsewhere. Your killboard is pretty admirable, but you should really do some checking before boasting that you're better than the top 5 NO killers next time, and check your ego at the door. I think it is called the junior league for a reason. But anyway i think its funny you took the time to search all of these to feel the need to provide proof being 43 and all Also former new order pilots ala http://evewho.com/pilot/Botslayer+Goblin or http://evewho.com/pilot/Capt+Starfox that was nearly 6 months ago GTFO LOL Irrelevant, your colleague asked for proof, I provided it, FYI Capt Starfox still ganks with the new order guys, Botslayer Goblin had a disagreement with someone and disappeared to do his own thing.
As for your friends insults, he should try harder, he's coming across as a disgruntled child with a bad case of myopia and nappy rash.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10940
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:51:00 -
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412nv Yaken wrote: And you are coming across as a senile old man, so could you please relax
Senility is not to be laughed at, it's a horrible thing to see someone completely lose their marbles, just hope it doesn't happen to your loved ones.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10941
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Posted - 2013.07.16 00:10:00 -
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412nv Yaken wrote:Oh its all so clear now, you are mad because you were stupid enough to "buy shares" in the "code" and feel like you need to protect your "investment" Oh man that is shameful http://www.minerbumping.com/p/shareholders.html CTRL+ F> search your name Dont bother replying /thread Congratulations on your detective skills I've never hidden the fact that I'm a shareholder in the new order, as numerous forum posts by myself will show, now apply them to checking out the proofs I laid out earlier.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10943
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Posted - 2013.07.16 02:37:00 -
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loyalanon wrote:and you got told grandpa.
go back to your all bran, i think they are having vegetable soup at the retirement sometime soon grandpa.
and thats thread. let me know when any of your investments step up to the big leagues old man. I was once told to never get into an argument with idiots, because they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Never a truer word was said, well played.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
11250
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Posted - 2013.07.23 20:27:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Ghosteagle Knight wrote:Well to a point i can see and get part of what this new order is doing but make legit miners pay for protection is a scam anyway you look at it, so you might as well call it what it is, i meen come on if you can't see a wolf in sheeps clothing then something is very wrong with all of you who buy into this crap of James 315 and his new order cult ...spoken like a true miner. The word is "mean." "Sheep's" has an apostrophe. You are also missing a couple commas. Capital I's you missed them 
James and his merry band of gankers aren't wolves in sheep's clothing, they're open about what they do, and have fun wrapping it in rhetoric and role play. The wolf in sheep's clothing is the guy hiding in plain sight and providing the warpin.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Matah Kagmi Designs
11286
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Posted - 2013.07.26 01:22:00 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Starkiller Lothlorien wrote:*incoherent rambling* In your case, drunk posting is NOT best posting.  I'm thinking a combination of any or all of the following drunk, troll, goon, russian, testie, google translate.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Matah Kagmi Designs
11323
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Posted - 2013.07.30 10:36:00 -
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Mythos Majere wrote:
What should I do? 1) Just be more aware and work on paranoia? 2) Go to higher-sec? (0.9-1.0 vs 0.5-0.6) 3) Tank up and go for a Skiff when the time comes? 4) Try to find a corp where I could be a mostly solo miner? (Do such things even exist?) 5) Quit the game.
Trolls, bait and flame away. /wave at Loyalanon, I see you hunting in my systems all the time.
1) Paranoia is good, everybody in Eve is out to get you. 2) 0.9 and 1.0 space are a little safer, but not safe. You'll still get ganked, the faster Concord response times just means that people will bring more firepower so that they can kill you in the window that they have 3) Skiffs and Procurers are a very good deterrent, unless you've really annoyed somebody you're pretty safe in one. 4) Finding a player run corp is always a good thing, even if all you want to do is mine you'll find a player corp has many things to offer. 5) Quitting is an option, Eve isn't for everyone, some people can't handle or just don't like the dog eat dog attitude we have. Stick around for a few months, find your niche, Eve has so much more to offer than the obvious PvE, but if you do quit, can I have your stuff?
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Shepherd Contract Agency Scholarly Division
11457
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:09:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote: Please. CONCORD podding in next patch.
That will change things how? Suicide gank alts are for the most part low SP highly specialised characters with a couple of cheap gunnery implants, Concord podding them will make absolutely no difference to them at all. Clone costs and replacement implants are already factored into the potential profit (in isk or lols) and risk calculation.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Shepherd Contract Agency Scholarly Division
11580
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:40:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote: Ill just say this, you guys make much more sense when you explain things rather than yammer on about the code or whatnot. Highlighting cause/effect makes much more sense (to me) than just killing off miners in the name of James (who i still think is a douche), but now I get where your coming from.
The RP and zealotry are much more effective at provoking angry miners into providing hilarious chat logs than cause and effect.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13200
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:41:00 -
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Ange Noire wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:Ange Noire wrote: I can't stop laughing when i see you all trying to justify yourself.
See, this is the funniest part. I'm not a member of the New Order. Not even an egent. If you'd bothered to do your research, even in *this* thread, you'd have known that. Hook, line, and sinker. How does it feel to be a fish? And ? you expressed your point of view, i expressed mine. that you are actually part or just agree with them or even just doing this for the sake of being a "forum warrior" whatever. the result is the same, you/they can do it because the game allow it, but trying to justify it by a "religious" belief, or roleplay is weird. Did you somehow miss the bit where the religious zealotry and roleplay are satire? Not to mention really really effective at collecting hilarious chat logs.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13466
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:19:00 -
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There is another kind? [/quote]Certainly.
There are things which can be, have been, and are venerated that have objective existance beyond the veneration. [/quote]Leto Thule wrote:^^
Do what?
Lol... Bacon
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13541
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Posted - 2013.09.09 20:07:00 -
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Unknowen 1217B wrote:So tell me little kids (James 315 and the New Order of Highsec), where is challenge of destroying a ship that can't fight back. I mean really, I understand the whold thing eve is not safe, but what you are doing is nothing no more then beating someone in RL that's tied up. And the whole 10m permit thing makes me laugh so hard I pass out. Soon my main and corp will be heading your way so we can laugh when your ships go boom boom  Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a new contender.
- Will they be any better than the last one, or indeed any of the others that have come before them?
- Will they be full of hot air or will they actually do something?
- More importantly will they have a blog where they can be ridiculed mercilessly?
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13580
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Posted - 2013.09.10 05:21:00 -
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kalyte Sinulf wrote:Sausage and weight related insults as a result of being ganked Did you have a permit? I am furnishing this post "as is". I do not provide any warranty for the post whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for a particular purpose or any warranty that the contents of the post will be error-free.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13761
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Posted - 2013.09.12 18:45:00 -
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Tydeth Gilitae wrote:Overall some good advice You don't have to stay docked to avoid being ganked, you just have to make sure that you're harder to gank than the other guys in the belt.
The day every miner fits a proper tank, doesn't AFK or bot and accepts Eve is a harsh multiplayer game where pretty much anything (currently) goes, is the day James and his merry gang of mischievous types (GÖÑ you guys) hang up their catalysts. I am furnishing this post "as is" I do not provide any warranty whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for purpose or any warranty that the contents herein are error-free.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17634
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Posted - 2014.04.02 12:27:00 -
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^^ Doing it right. +1
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17720
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:04:00 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Armor tank your barge and have a repper cloaked nearby waiting. Armor reps keep you alive long enough for CONCORD to pop them. Armour tank? That's a pretty damn terrible piece of advice, it may be an option for a Covetor or Retriever with their single mid-slot, but once you've got strip miners fitted you've only got fitting room for a 200mm plate; may as well just not bother.
IMHO barges and exhumers should be shield tanked, and should also have the extender rigs to match; unless of course you're willing to accept ship losses as a cost of mining.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17721
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:18:00 -
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Maxmillian Rokatansky wrote:This is in response to the thread in General discussion that was locked: Are New Order permits now worthless?
I would say that is a matter of perspective, but to answer the OP of that thread's question about the propaganda cans stating permit holding miners are now subject to bumps and ganks... Yes we are bumping and ganking permit holding miners.
Why are you bumping and ganking permit holding miners?
I'll tell you why... I understand that the ten mil permit fee is a drop in the bucket of the CODE budget, but let me tell you something about permit holding miners.
They enjoy sitting in minerbumping chat and feeding CODE agents intell about non-compliant miners. I dont know how often this happens as most agents have scouts these days but on occasion they provide warp-ins for ganks. Thats called aiding and abetting. Some of the people in the anti-ganking movement might still call them victims and thats allright.
I guess the biggest reason I think its a good idea to gank and bump permit holding miners is that there is not alot CODE can do to stop it, and most of them are in such disbelief that it is actually happening that they fall into their old habits of claiming victory no matter the outcome of any given situation. I think you'll find that they're more shocked at the distinct lack of opposition they've encountered so far. There's been a few woefully unsuccessful attempts to challenge them, resulting in much merriment amongst the Knights of the New Order. If you manage to actually do something meaningful about CODE. and their activities they'll probably be amongst the first to say well done.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17732
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Posted - 2014.04.11 10:19:00 -
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They even let non compliant miners in the minerbumping channel, I'm one of them and have been chatting and having a laugh with the New Order guys for over a year.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17811
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Posted - 2014.04.13 12:51:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Haedonism Bot wrote:John XIII wrote:Nice post OP, I hope you've bought a permit or rolled a cat pilot by now.
 This thread is 11 months old. What do you think we should get it for its birthday? A lock 
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17929
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:38:00 -
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Sawdeth Alumini wrote:Wrong. The only way to avoid being ganked by the new order is to put stabs on your mining vessels Barges and exhumers take approx. 10-15 seconds to align, if you're not already aligned and accelerating before the gankers hit the belt, you're dead before you hit warp; unless you've fitted a proper tank, or are using a Procurer or a Skiff; regardless of your warp stabs.
A DC is a far better module to put in the lows.
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